CDR Tickets

BZDATETIME::2011-10-03 15:33:50
BZCOMMENTOR::Margaret Beckwith
BZCOMMENT::1

I don't understand why we wouldn't have already transferred these trials? They are clinical center trials, which we have known for a long time are directly submitted to CT.gov. I thought we had identified all of these and transferred them. Am I missing something? I added Kim as a CC to the issue.

BZDATETIME::2011-10-03 15:46:49
BZCOMMENTOR::Bob Kline
BZCOMMENT::2

(In reply to comment #0)
> Could you please look into how to prevent them from showing up on this
> particular report? Also, we need to discuss how to proceed with getting
> these trials converted, perhaps manually?

Taking care of the second part solves the first problem. How about populating the transfer blocks for the protocol documents, and then have me drop the rows for the trials from the ctgov_import table. If we do that, then I believe the next download job will do what would have been done if the transfer blocks had been populated before the transfer.

BZDATETIME::2011-10-04 11:08:52
BZCOMMENTOR::William Osei-Poku
BZCOMMENT::3

(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #0)
> > Could you please look into how to prevent them from showing up on this
> > particular report? Also, we need to discuss how to proceed with getting
> > these trials converted, perhaps manually?
>
> Taking care of the second part solves the first problem. How about populating
> the transfer blocks for the protocol documents, and then have me drop the rows
> for the trials from the ctgov_import table. If we do that, then I believe the
> next download job will do what would have been done if the transfer blocks had
> been populated before the transfer.

It seems they showed up on the review new protocols report because they made changes to the org_study_id. For all the ones that I looked at, the changes were like this:

BEFORE CHANGES AFTER CHANGES

<org_study_id> <org_study_id>
CDR0000546651 070133, CDR0000546651

Additional IDs were added to the org_study_id. This may prevent the normal conversion to take place after the transfer blocks are added.

BZDATETIME::2011-10-04 16:10:32
BZCOMMENTOR::William Osei-Poku
BZCOMMENT::4

This morning we received about 17 new clinical center (CC) trials that we identified as duplicates of what came in yesterday (and reported in the original post). So even though the CC took ownership of our trials in ctgov, they went ahead and registered their versions of the same trials also, creating duplicates in the process.

Following standard procedure, this is what we plan to do:
1. We will import the new CC trials (their version).

2. Copy indexing from the existing InScopeProtocol trials to the newly imported trials.

3. Process the trials normally like we do for all ctgov trials and publish them.

4. Block the existing InScopeProtocol trials about the same time that we publish the new ctgov trials.

5. Number 4 above will generate an email to ctgov to remove the duplicate record and mark one NCT ID as an alias or obsolete trial.

Margaret, it seems you approved this process when it came earlier but we will wait to hear from you before we proceed with the plan.

BZDATETIME::2011-10-06 12:12:18
BZCOMMENTOR::Margaret Beckwith
BZCOMMENT::5

The process sounds fine. I didn't ever get an answer to my questiont though. I was wondering why we hadn't transferred these before. I thought we had identified all of the clinical center trials.

BZDATETIME::2011-10-13 12:20:37
BZCOMMENTOR::Margaret Beckwith
BZCOMMENT::6

I would like to get a list of all of the clinical center trials that we have not yet transferred. Thanks.

BZDATETIME::2011-10-17 13:05:48
BZCOMMENTOR::Kim Eckley
BZCOMMENT::7

Attachment NCITrials for Transfer.xls has been added with description: List of NCI Clinical Center trials not yet transferred.

BZDATETIME::2011-10-19 10:41:59
BZCOMMENTOR::William Osei-Poku
BZCOMMENT::8

I am marking this issue as resolved but I am not going to close it yet. The duplicate trials have been cleaned up.

BZDATETIME::2011-11-08 11:55:19
BZCOMMENTOR::Margaret Beckwith
BZCOMMENT::9

I have an email with the list of Clinical Center trials, so I am closing this issue.